In this clip, Marcus Du Sautoy (Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford and current Simonyi Professor for the Public Understanding of Science) participates in an experiment conducted by John-Dylan Haynes (Professor at the Bernstein Center for Computational Neuroscience Berlin) that attempts to find the neurological basis for decision making.
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guys watch the matrix and see for youselves
We are the sum of our cognitive functions.
We are the some of our brain activity.
@DrakeVerde
“just because you thought about choosing a choice doesnt mean you are going to choose that choice.”
That is exactly what it means. Watch the video again, you clearly didn’t understand it. In fact the subject didn’t even know he was making a decision until 6 seconds after he had already made it..he couldn’t possibly had chosen left if his brain had already chosen right. That is appears to him that HE is making a choice is merely an illusion.
only problem… why two switches and not three? It would be much more accurate. Humans not always choose between two alternatives, but more.
@DrakeVerde
right to the point
@Nhora3 (with a bit of digression)
of course everyone is responsible for his actions
the same way i earlier considered religion as solid basis for mercy and forgiveness
and moral values i now am of different opinion
consider the breivik case i had no problems killing him
or if he ever apologizes send him to prison
for the rest of his life without sth. to write and internet access forever
just because you had brain activity before you thought about the decision doesnt mean you dont have free will.just because you thought about choosing a choice doesnt mean you are going to choose that choice.
Obviously the human being is socially, geografically, etc. defined but ethics needs the claim that, at least at some extant, a human is free. Without freedom there is no responsability, without responsability there is no justice, without justice there is no moral. Freedom is an ethical necessity.
@vudu8ball Haynes makes a straw man argument; a case against dualism, but in fact free will and consciousness is argued from substance-monist worldview. And conscious choices are determined/selected/partially influenced by digital information embedded at the Plank scale, when the quantum function collapses or not. These are non-computable functions in the Orch-Or model of Roger Penrose. Also Gregory Chaitin work on Godel’s sheds more light with irreducible complex “Omega”.
@vudu8ball Determinists made a straw man argument; a case against dualism, but in fact free will and consciousness is argued from substance-monist worldview. And conscious choices are determined/selected/partially influenced by digital information embedded at the Plank scale, when the quantum function collapses or not. These are non-computable functions in the Orch-Or model of Roger Penrose. Also Gregory Chaitin work on Godel’s sheds more light with irreducible complex “Omega”.
@vudu8ball Marcus Du Sautoy made a straw man argument; a case against dualism, but in fact free will and consciousness is argued from substance-monist worldview. And conscious choices are determined/selected/partially influenced by digital information embedded at the Plank scale, when the quantum function collapses or not. These are non-computable functions in the Orch-Or model of Roger Penrose. Also Gregory Chaitin work on Godel’s sheds more light with irreducible complex “Omega”.
The Buddha taught that there is no free will, only causality.
Find the nearest Theravada Buddhist monastery people!
@Iced1992
I thoroughly enjoyed that retort
@Iced1992
who sad that this brain activity has somthing with your disicion?
maybe it just shows that the brain prepering to think that all you should read more about this in wiki even the experts dont agree about that and the feild remains contarvocial
@kanibals100 You, sir, are a retard. You laugh at facts, and then you fail to understand even the most basic of neuroscience. If your decisions are made before you’re even aware that they’re being made, you’re obviously not the one making the decision.
That’s called logic, sir. Stop being retarded and use it.